If you want to make your own G4 pack, there is a online group specifically designed to help you do that. Check out the Yahoo Group . Join in on the conversation and go old school on the cheap. Although we no longer have patterns or instructions available to do this, you can find them at Quest Outfitters. Good luck with your project! Of course if you are not a do-it-yourselfer, we still sell the packs and it is our best deal and easiest way to get into backpacking the ultralight way!